Dan Dreyfus
critical-minerals/commodities investor · critical-minerals/commodities investor (Bornite Capital)
“We're going to need five world class mega tier one mines coming online every single year... you can count on one hand and have some fingers left over the number of tier one mines that are coming on between now and the end of the decade.”
“Over the next 18 years, we're going to need 700 million tons of copper. Over the next 18 years, we're going to need as much copper as we mined in the last 10,000 years.”
“Last April, China announced that they were going to cut off exports of some critical materials to the US... we learned that the Ford Motor Company was within days, literally days of their entire production line shutting down... This put people in the Department of War, Department of Energy into a panic.”
“We have not invested in upgrading and modernizing and hardening the electric grid since post World War II. We just let it go... We're going to have shortfalls just from [electrification]... Not even talking about AI.”
“We're going to be short the silver, for example, to build these solar panels... we consume a billion 2 ounces a year... we only have 600 million of above ground inventory left. So the clock's ticking. We got three years left, guys, before we just stock out.”
“Talon Energy is a power producer. They have 2 gigawatts of nuclear power and they've got 6 gigawatts of natural gas baseload power today... you could probably purchase this company at a $25 billion enterprise value. The replacement cost is 45 billion.”
“It's the latter [clean firm baseload is scarce enough]... The $50 a share of earnings, again, high $300 stock, $50 a share of earnings. Nothing has to happen. You just sit, and then you double your money.”
“106 gigawatts of new power in the PJM in just one little area of the US... in 10 years. That's the size of what Japan consumes today for one little part of the US.”
“I look at the data center as the exact same thing as a refinery... you put electricity in, and on the other end... out comes photons or tokens or intelligence... Big capital intensive asset, $50 billion per gigawatt.”
Dan Dreyfus
One-line summary: Critical-minerals and commodities investor; argues the capital-light era is over and copper/critical-minerals supply is the binding constraint on the AI/electrification capex supercycle.
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On copper-supercycle-ai-data-centers:
"We're going to need five world class mega tier one mines coming online every single year... you can count on one hand and have some fingers left over the number of tier one mines that are coming on between now and the end of the decade." — 2026-06-10-podcast-all-in-podcast-dan-dreyfus-america-s-critical-minerals-crisis-is (2026-06-10)
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On copper-supercycle-ai-data-centers:
"Over the next 18 years, we're going to need 700 million tons of copper. Over the next 18 years, we're going to need as much copper as we mined in the last 10,000 years." — 2026-06-10-podcast-all-in-podcast-dan-dreyfus-america-s-critical-minerals-crisis-is (2026-06-10)
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On china-ree-controls-to-us-producer-stack, us-critical-mineral-independence:
"Last April, China announced that they were going to cut off exports of some critical materials to the US... we learned that the Ford Motor Company was within days, literally days of their entire production line shutting down... This put people in the Department of War, Department of Energy into a panic." — 2026-06-10-podcast-all-in-podcast-dan-dreyfus-america-s-critical-minerals-crisis-is (2026-06-10)
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On ai-capex-to-power-and-materials-cascade:
"We have not invested in upgrading and modernizing and hardening the electric grid since post World War II. We just let it go... We're going to have shortfalls just from [electrification]... Not even talking about AI." — 2026-06-10-podcast-all-in-podcast-dan-dreyfus-america-s-critical-minerals-crisis-is (2026-06-10)
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On silver-depletion-to-solar-supply-squeeze:
"We're going to be short the silver, for example, to build these solar panels... we consume a billion 2 ounces a year... we only have 600 million of above ground inventory left. So the clock's ticking. We got three years left, guys, before we just stock out." — 2026-06-10-podcast-all-in-podcast-dan-dreyfus-america-s-critical-minerals-crisis-is (2026-06-10)
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On talen-energy-replacement-cost-pjm-scarcity, nuclear-baseload-for-ai-data-centers:
"Talon Energy is a power producer. They have 2 gigawatts of nuclear power and they've got 6 gigawatts of natural gas baseload power today... you could probably purchase this company at a $25 billion enterprise value. The replacement cost is 45 billion." — 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors (2026-06-12)
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On talen-energy-replacement-cost-pjm-scarcity:
"It's the latter [clean firm baseload is scarce enough]... The $50 a share of earnings, again, high $300 stock, $50 a share of earnings. Nothing has to happen. You just sit, and then you double your money." — 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors (2026-06-12)
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On talen-energy-replacement-cost-pjm-scarcity, ferc-large-load-to-dc-gridscale-construction:
"106 gigawatts of new power in the PJM in just one little area of the US... in 10 years. That's the size of what Japan consumes today for one little part of the US." — 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors (2026-06-12)
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On ai-capex-to-power-and-materials-cascade:
"I look at the data center as the exact same thing as a refinery... you put electricity in, and on the other end... out comes photons or tokens or intelligence... Big capital intensive asset, $50 billion per gigawatt." — 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors (2026-06-12)
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- 2026-06-10-podcast-all-in-podcast-dan-dreyfus-america-s-critical-minerals-crisis-is
- 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors
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