David Sacks
Co-host, All-In Podcast · Partner at Craft Ventures · AI/Crypto Czar (Trump admin) · investor (Craft Ventures); All-In co-host · All-In co-host
“The issue we had in 2000 was dark fiber. You had all this infrastructure being built out and it wasn't being used. There's no dark GPUs today, as Brad Gerstner likes to say. So what's driving the CapEx now is the voracious demand for compute for tokens”
“this year I think we were supposed to have 660 billion of hyperscaler capex up from 350 last year. I think there's now the new estimate is going to be over 700. So this is again, it's more than 2% of GDP. This is a huge tailwind to GDP. There's another article saying that I think in the last quarter AI was 75% of GDP growth”
“my most contrarian take back in January on our prediction show is that AI would lead to job gains, not job loss. And over the past week, you've now seen the narrative shift, I'd say, almost completely towards that position...Yale Budget Lab did, they said no discernible disruption in the labor market in the last three years due to AI...job postings for software developers have hit a new three year high, despite the fact that coding is the single breakout use case of AI this year.”
“if you look at the growth rates right now, Anthropic does seem to be pulling away...if you have one company that's growing at 10x year over year and another company that's growing at 3x year over year, within two years the first company will have 90% market share. This is the power of compounding, right? Is just do the math on it. 10 times 10 is 100, 3 times 3 is 9.”
“The biggest risk of AI is the centralization of power and then its misuse against us in some Orwellian way... if you create, say, an FDA for AI, as many people are calling on, that will give government the power to approve models and therefore give notes to model developers.”
“Where it's all leading to is an effort to ban open source models or open weight models. There's a lot of breadcrumbs leading here... any threat that they describe, they kind of go out of their way to take that shot at open source models.”
“Coding is the single job category most impacted by AI right now... job recs for software developers are at a three year high, growing 15% year over year. There were 1 billion code commits last year. In the past month there's been 1.1 billion. That code has to be managed by somebody.”
“The single most marketable skill in the economy right now has got to be proficiency in Claude. If you're going into a firm right now and you're the only one who knows Claude, it would be like you're the only one who knows how to work a spreadsheet.”
“If you have one company that's growing at 10x year over year and another company that's growing at 3x year over year, within two years the first company will have 90% market share. This is the power of compounding.”
“[Talen] is more interest rate sensitive than MGM is because the power purchase agreements really are where a lot of the revenue comes from. So you're going to get a discount rate that's a function of where interest rates are sitting... if interest rates shoot up you actually get margin compression from that 15x outlook.”
“[MGM] call it 3x in 2 years, even if this bid goes nowhere and they keep the thing running... I do like the floor on the bid. Barry Diller... has been spending a lot of time on trying to reinvent the entertainment at these properties... which will cause the gambling revenue to fly.”
“This is a trillion-dollar company spending billions on a regulatory-capture agenda which is going to deprive you of access to those alternative models. The nerfing of competitors' AI/ML/chip-design research is completely anti-competitive.”
“they're watching where the value is being created on top of their models, then they're moving in directly. ... they want to dominate the model layer, you could call that the operating system and then use that position, that monopolistic position to capture the most lucrative verticals.”
“We know that Anthropic is around 60 something billion of ARR. OpenAI is at 40 something billion of ARR. As far as we know, no one else is really generating meaningful revenue at the model layer. So we already have, let's say, an emerging duopoly situation.”
“once a model is open sourced it, it stops being Chinese in a way. ... you run it in an American data center on your own hardware. There's no packets going back to China, there's no data leakage going back to China.”
“the export control letter was taken down after two weeks. I think that this was a highly unusual circumstance ... I don't think people should over extrapolate based on what just happened over the past few weeks. I think it was highly particular to this fact pattern.”
“Open source went from 19% last year to 11% this year. So open source as a share of enterprise spending is actually decreasing.”
“This is a case of the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. They are unable to do it. And so this is why the share of wallet of closed models, it actually increased.”
“an SRO approach would be infinitely better than... creating a new government agency that I think would rapidly become a DMV for AI. Dario calls it an FAA for AI.”
“Anthropic is pursuing a strategy of one upmanship that encourages states to impose increasingly tougher AI guardrails rather than align around a single set of regulations... they actually want the patchwork.”
“these data centers are a model of land use efficiency... The whole water consumption thing is largely a hoax. The modern data centers recirculate the water closed loop systems.”
“let the AI companies become power companies... if you do what Chamath said and let them build behind the meter, then they bring their own power.”
“I think that both open source and closed source will be big winners... Anthropic and OpenAI are blowing the doors off. They are by far the fastest growing tech companies at scale that we've ever seen... their internal forecast was to 10x this year, from 10 to 100... they're already over 70 billion.”
“is it driven by fundamentals or is it driven by momentum? And my view is that I think it's driven by momentum.”
“My view is that eventually there will be a return on that investment. And this is sort of temporary market volatility amplified by leverage.”
“the price of compute is going to go up and that will provide an advantage to the models that have the most lucrative algorithms… there's gonna be a bigger barrier to entry next year.”
“when you look at the in person return data and then you look at the early mail in data and then the late mail in data, where suddenly Nitya Raman has this massive surge and there's this huge statistical difference as the ballots start to get counted in the days and weeks that follow, she wins, it seems very improbable that there's a true statistical difference in the population that might be in person, male in early and male in late.”
“Or is it by design? Nate, let me ask you a question. If voter ID laws don't change and mail in ballot laws don't change and the system doesn't change, is there a chance ... for Republican governor to be elected again in California”
“if you were to do something like ban open source in the United States, you'll put the United States on an island. The rest of the world is not going to follow suit. ... what we will do then is subject American enterprises to a token tax”
“the original purpose and understanding of the 14th Amendment was to make sure that the children of freed slaves would have citizenship rights. ... Now Congress cannot make the law because the Supreme Court has ruled that citizenship is determined by birthright.”
“about a third of US adults say all immigrants in the US who are here illegally should be deported. And then half say some should be. So 32% are in favor of deporting all illegals and 51% are in favor of deporting some. ... 16%, which is the DSA group, says none should be deported.”
“this idea that somehow things get bad enough where you get a red wave in super blue California and everything gets magically fixed, not going to happen. What's going to happen is a blue state is going to get bluer.”
“creating data centers is not rocket science. So they take some of those hardware expertise that they have from SpaceX and they put them into data centers.”
“Look at all the negative consequences of banning data centers. Data centers are going to be 3% of GDP. It's basically creating all the gains in the stock market.”
“this narrative of the SaaS apocalypse was totally overdone. I mean, this whole SaaS is dead narrative is just getting shredded today with Salesforce being up over 20%... I do not believe that core systems of record like CRM are gonna get ripped and replaced with something vibe coded. Enterprises want certainty. They have compliance. They want professionally managed software that's been running and debugged for years.”
“the other narrative that's getting shredded today is that this AI Capex is a bubble... what Nvidia is basically saying with its numbers and forecasts is actually this AI Capex is going to continue well into the future... Even despite the 8% bump, Nvidia is only trading at 12 times earnings.”
David Sacks
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On ai-capex-to-power-and-materials-cascade:
"The issue we had in 2000 was dark fiber. You had all this infrastructure being built out and it wasn't being used. There's no dark GPUs today, as Brad Gerstner likes to say. So what's driving the CapEx now is the voracious demand for compute for tokens" — 2026-05-01-all-in-podcast-openai-misses-targets-codex-vs-claude-elon-vs (2026-05-01)
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On ai-capex-to-power-and-materials-cascade:
"this year I think we were supposed to have 660 billion of hyperscaler capex up from 350 last year. I think there's now the new estimate is going to be over 700. So this is again, it's more than 2% of GDP. This is a huge tailwind to GDP. There's another article saying that I think in the last quarter AI was 75% of GDP growth" — 2026-05-01-all-in-podcast-openai-misses-targets-codex-vs-claude-elon-vs (2026-05-01)
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On seat-based-saas-ai-disruption:
"my most contrarian take back in January on our prediction show is that AI would lead to job gains, not job loss. And over the past week, you've now seen the narrative shift, I'd say, almost completely towards that position...Yale Budget Lab did, they said no discernible disruption in the labor market in the last three years due to AI...job postings for software developers have hit a new three year high, despite the fact that coding is the single breakout use case of AI this year." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On cuda-moat-erosion-at-inference:
"if you look at the growth rates right now, Anthropic does seem to be pulling away...if you have one company that's growing at 10x year over year and another company that's growing at 3x year over year, within two years the first company will have 90% market share. This is the power of compounding, right? Is just do the math on it. 10 times 10 is 100, 3 times 3 is 9." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On ai-safety-as-regulatory-capture:
"The biggest risk of AI is the centralization of power and then its misuse against us in some Orwellian way... if you create, say, an FDA for AI, as many people are calling on, that will give government the power to approve models and therefore give notes to model developers." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On ai-safety-as-regulatory-capture, open-vs-closed-source-model-economics:
"Where it's all leading to is an effort to ban open source models or open weight models. There's a lot of breadcrumbs leading here... any threat that they describe, they kind of go out of their way to take that shot at open source models." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On ai-job-displacement-debate:
"Coding is the single job category most impacted by AI right now... job recs for software developers are at a three year high, growing 15% year over year. There were 1 billion code commits last year. In the past month there's been 1.1 billion. That code has to be managed by somebody." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On ai-job-displacement-debate:
"The single most marketable skill in the economy right now has got to be proficiency in Claude. If you're going into a firm right now and you're the only one who knows Claude, it would be like you're the only one who knows how to work a spreadsheet." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On anthropic, llm-as-commodity-thesis:
"If you have one company that's growing at 10x year over year and another company that's growing at 3x year over year, within two years the first company will have 90% market share. This is the power of compounding." — 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss (2026-05-29)
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On talen-energy-replacement-cost-pjm-scarcity:
"[Talen] is more interest rate sensitive than MGM is because the power purchase agreements really are where a lot of the revenue comes from. So you're going to get a discount rate that's a function of where interest rates are sitting... if interest rates shoot up you actually get margin compression from that 15x outlook." — 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors (2026-06-12)
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On mgm-diller-bid-floor-japan-dubai:
"[MGM] call it 3x in 2 years, even if this bid goes nowhere and they keep the thing running... I do like the floor on the bid. Barry Diller... has been spending a lot of time on trying to reinvent the entertainment at these properties... which will cause the gambling revenue to fly." — 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors (2026-06-12)
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On ai-safety-as-regulatory-capture:
"This is a trillion-dollar company spending billions on a regulatory-capture agenda which is going to deprive you of access to those alternative models. The nerfing of competitors' AI/ML/chip-design research is completely anti-competitive." — 2026-06-13-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-fable-backlash-nationalizing-ai (2026-06-13)
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On anthropic, frontier-lab-vertical-integration-to-sovereign-ai-stack:
"they're watching where the value is being created on top of their models, then they're moving in directly. ... they want to dominate the model layer, you could call that the operating system and then use that position, that monopolistic position to capture the most lucrative verticals." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On anthropic, frontier-lab-vertical-integration-to-sovereign-ai-stack:
"We know that Anthropic is around 60 something billion of ARR. OpenAI is at 40 something billion of ARR. As far as we know, no one else is really generating meaningful revenue at the model layer. So we already have, let's say, an emerging duopoly situation." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On china-blackwell-offshore-compute-routing, open-source-share-shift-bullish-for-compute:
"once a model is open sourced it, it stops being Chinese in a way. ... you run it in an American data center on your own hardware. There's no packets going back to China, there's no data leakage going back to China." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On frontier-lab-distrust-to-hyperscaler-gatekeeper-toll, anthropic:
"the export control letter was taken down after two weeks. I think that this was a highly unusual circumstance ... I don't think people should over extrapolate based on what just happened over the past few weeks. I think it was highly particular to this fact pattern." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On open-source-share-shift-bullish-for-compute, ai-roi-reckoning:
"Open source went from 19% last year to 11% this year. So open source as a share of enterprise spending is actually decreasing." — 2026-07-11-podcast-all-in-podcast-more-trillion-dollar-ipos-anthropic-3t-zuck-s (2026-07-11)
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On open-source-share-shift-bullish-for-compute:
"This is a case of the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. They are unable to do it. And so this is why the share of wallet of closed models, it actually increased." — 2026-07-11-podcast-all-in-podcast-more-trillion-dollar-ipos-anthropic-3t-zuck-s (2026-07-11)
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"an SRO approach would be infinitely better than... creating a new government agency that I think would rapidly become a DMV for AI. Dario calls it an FAA for AI." — 2026-07-18-podcast-all-in-podcast-can-the-ai-industry-regulate-itself-stripe-wants (2026-07-18)
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On ai-safety-as-regulatory-capture:
"Anthropic is pursuing a strategy of one upmanship that encourages states to impose increasingly tougher AI guardrails rather than align around a single set of regulations... they actually want the patchwork." — 2026-07-18-podcast-all-in-podcast-can-the-ai-industry-regulate-itself-stripe-wants (2026-07-18)
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"these data centers are a model of land use efficiency... The whole water consumption thing is largely a hoax. The modern data centers recirculate the water closed loop systems." — 2026-07-18-podcast-all-in-podcast-can-the-ai-industry-regulate-itself-stripe-wants (2026-07-18)
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"let the AI companies become power companies... if you do what Chamath said and let them build behind the meter, then they bring their own power." — 2026-07-18-podcast-all-in-podcast-can-the-ai-industry-regulate-itself-stripe-wants (2026-07-18)
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On open-weight-sputnik-to-frontier-lab-derate, ai-inference-revenue-run-rate-dispute:
"I think that both open source and closed source will be big winners... Anthropic and OpenAI are blowing the doors off. They are by far the fastest growing tech companies at scale that we've ever seen... their internal forecast was to 10x this year, from 10 to 100... they're already over 70 billion." — 2026-07-24-podcast-all-in-podcast-the-fight-over-open-source-ai-anthropic-s-1-5b (2026-07-24)
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On ai-roi-reckoning:
"is it driven by fundamentals or is it driven by momentum? And my view is that I think it's driven by momentum." — 2026-07-31-podcast-all-in-podcast-chip-stocks-crash-20b-fund-margin-called-frontier (2026-07-31)
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On ai-roi-reckoning:
"My view is that eventually there will be a return on that investment. And this is sort of temporary market volatility amplified by leverage." — 2026-07-31-podcast-all-in-podcast-chip-stocks-crash-20b-fund-margin-called-frontier (2026-07-31)
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On open-source-share-shift-bullish-for-compute:
"the price of compute is going to go up and that will provide an advantage to the models that have the most lucrative algorithms… there's gonna be a bigger barrier to entry next year." — 2026-07-31-podcast-all-in-podcast-chip-stocks-crash-20b-fund-margin-called-frontier (2026-07-31)
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On california-mail-ballot-count:
"when you look at the in person return data and then you look at the early mail in data and then the late mail in data, where suddenly Nitya Raman has this massive surge and there's this huge statistical difference as the ballots start to get counted in the days and weeks that follow, she wins, it seems very improbable that there's a true statistical difference in the population that might be in person, male in early and male in late." — 2026-06-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-nate-silver-predicts-democrats-take-the-house (2026-06-29)
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On california-mail-ballot-count:
"Or is it by design? Nate, let me ask you a question. If voter ID laws don't change and mail in ballot laws don't change and the system doesn't change, is there a chance ... for Republican governor to be elected again in California" — 2026-06-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-nate-silver-predicts-democrats-take-the-house (2026-06-29)
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On will-us-ban-chinese-open-weight-models:
"if you were to do something like ban open source in the United States, you'll put the United States on an island. The rest of the world is not going to follow suit. ... what we will do then is subject American enterprises to a token tax" — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On scotus-birthright-citizenship-2026:
"the original purpose and understanding of the 14th Amendment was to make sure that the children of freed slaves would have citizenship rights. ... Now Congress cannot make the law because the Supreme Court has ruled that citizenship is determined by birthright." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On scotus-birthright-citizenship-2026:
"about a third of US adults say all immigrants in the US who are here illegally should be deported. And then half say some should be. So 32% are in favor of deporting all illegals and 51% are in favor of deporting some. ... 16%, which is the DSA group, says none should be deported." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On california-fiscal-spiral-2026, california-tax-base-exodus-to-fiscal-spiral:
"this idea that somehow things get bad enough where you get a red wave in super blue California and everything gets magically fixed, not going to happen. What's going to happen is a blue state is going to get bluer." — 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus (2026-07-03)
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On elon-web-services-to-spacex-hyperscaler-rerate:
"creating data centers is not rocket science. So they take some of those hardware expertise that they have from SpaceX and they put them into data centers." — 2026-08-15-all-in-podcast-google-s-ai-brain-drain-spacex-s-huge (2026-08-08)
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On state-datacenter-siting-moratorium-risk, phantom-data-center-load:
"Look at all the negative consequences of banning data centers. Data centers are going to be 3% of GDP. It's basically creating all the gains in the stock market." — 2026-08-21-podcast-all-in-podcast-dario-defends-himself-datacenter-panic-ai-doomer (2026-08-21)
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On agentic-ai-seat-erosion-to-saas-rerate, seat-based-saas-ai-disruption:
"this narrative of the SaaS apocalypse was totally overdone. I mean, this whole SaaS is dead narrative is just getting shredded today with Salesforce being up over 20%... I do not believe that core systems of record like CRM are gonna get ripped and replaced with something vibe coded. Enterprises want certainty. They have compliance. They want professionally managed software that's been running and debugged for years." — 2026-08-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-nvidia-s-historic-quarter-saas-comeback-bessent (2026-08-29)
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On cuda-moat-erosion-to-nvda-rerate:
"the other narrative that's getting shredded today is that this AI Capex is a bubble... what Nvidia is basically saying with its numbers and forecasts is actually this AI Capex is going to continue well into the future... Even despite the 8% bump, Nvidia is only trading at 12 times earnings." — 2026-08-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-nvidia-s-historic-quarter-saas-comeback-bessent (2026-08-29)
Sources
- 2026-05-01-all-in-podcast-openai-misses-targets-codex-vs-claude-elon-vs
- 2026-05-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-digital-god-pope-vs-ai-job-loss
- 2026-06-12-podcast-all-in-podcast-all-in-s-best-ideas-pitch-competition-4-investors
- 2026-06-13-podcast-all-in-podcast-anthropic-s-fable-backlash-nationalizing-ai
- 2026-07-03-podcast-all-in-podcast-ai-sovereignty-wars-palantir-nvidia-deal-scotus
- 2026-07-11-podcast-all-in-podcast-more-trillion-dollar-ipos-anthropic-3t-zuck-s
- 2026-07-18-podcast-all-in-podcast-can-the-ai-industry-regulate-itself-stripe-wants
- 2026-07-24-podcast-all-in-podcast-the-fight-over-open-source-ai-anthropic-s-1-5b
- 2026-07-31-podcast-all-in-podcast-chip-stocks-crash-20b-fund-margin-called-frontier
- 2026-06-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-nate-silver-predicts-democrats-take-the-house
- 2026-08-15-all-in-podcast-google-s-ai-brain-drain-spacex-s-huge
- 2026-08-21-podcast-all-in-podcast-dario-defends-himself-datacenter-panic-ai-doomer
- 2026-08-29-podcast-all-in-podcast-nvidia-s-historic-quarter-saas-comeback-bessent
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