Josh Brown
CEO of Ritholtz Wealth Management · Co-host of The Compound and Friends podcast
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“I think this is the singular debate in the market right now is how sustainable this build out is. How does this impact the hyperscalers? Nvidia, Taiwan, the memory companies?”
“Tom Lee was talking about this. He said the amount of same thing, the amount of wealth that's going to be created is going to be staggering. Guess what? The amount of wealth has to also come from somewhere because who is going to finance these purchases of SpaceX and OpenAI and Anthropic on the open market? Where does the $80 billion in cash come from and what is that going to do to other indices?”
“Tesla and Amazon are almost two thirds of the [consumer discretionary] index... in 2018 they were 18%. Now they're 62%. So you're not saying anything about the consumer, you're saying something about whether or not people want to buy those stocks.”
“Starlink is the whole company fundamentally... the cash flow is coming in from Starlink, which is hugely successful and is not even close to full penetration of its own TAM and really doesn't have any competition to speak of.”
“I just don't believe that there's $2 trillion on the sidelines... I don't think it's in cash. It's got to come from somewhere. Where is it going to come from? If they sell my stocks to buy this thing, I'm going to be pissed.”
“[Tech] outperformed the S&P by 29% over that [50-day period]. Here it is. This was a six standard deviation event.”
“Anthropic's first quarter operating profit in Q2 of this year was 559 million... They were at an $87 million run rate two years earlier... OpenAI lost $1.22 for every dollar that they earned in the quarter.”
“The idea behind selling Stretch and the other preferreds was this is a cheaper source of funding than the dilution of selling stock... Now he's selling bitcoin to pay the dividend yield on the preferreds... It's like backward.”
“This is the thing that people don't understand from the outside. The risk is all yours... Robinhood is going to be fine. They are not going to be left holding the bag. They will liquidate securities.”
“Eventually, Michael, the market figures out that not every software company is as disruptible as AI as other software companies. And some of these things are actually going to turn out to have been AI beneficiaries... If anyone is going to be in pole position to bring AI to the hospitality industry, my argument is it would be Toast.”
“if you're a component supplier to this, I don't give a shit what your guidance is... you're not gonna be the first to know. They're at the back of the train. They don't know that the locomotive in the front of the train just hit something or went off a cliff.”
“the only thing that matters here to the Apple shareholder is that Apple is the tollbooth. They're going to get paid coming and going regardless of which AI the consumer wants to use. And that is the checkmate.”
“the halo trade, heavy assets, low obsolescence, would be the most important one of the year... pairing capital intensive stocks with a short position in capital light companies such as software and services has delivered a 20% year to date gain.”
“Quote, in the first few weeks of June we saw clients shift their quarterly capex towards servers storage and memory purchases to secure supply constrained infrastructure ahead of expected price increases.”
“The stock lost 25% of its market cap today. That is $67 billion in lost market cap over a revenue miss of 660 million. Does that sound disproportionate to you?”
“And IBM by virtue of being the first of the tech companies to pre announce a weak quarter. I think just said the quiet part out loud which is enterprise SaaS spending is not a priority for the enterprise for corporations and it's probably not going to be for the rest of the summer.”
“The point I want to make is that the order of things inside of the IGV has changed significantly. The cybersecurity stocks are so much bigger now than they were six months ago relative to the enterprise SaaS stocks.”
“Starbucks told Wall street that they are actively working on their own AI products. And Wall street interpreted that as Microsoft and IBM, which are big Starbucks vendors, are going to be in trouble.”
“A seismic shift in the pricing of AI due to more efficient models that rely on less token use and less memory.”
“If they decide that they're going to use these open weight models for 95% of the workflows and then only send the most critical 5% to the more expensive frontier models like LLM and Anthropic. If they decide, hey, you know what? We actually don't need the best model. We just need something that we can repeatedly do. Okay, a fifth of the cost, that. But that changes all of a sudden the earnings expectations”
“The theme across all of these reports, very simple. We're in a bull market. These are the companies that benefit the most from bull markets historically. And the system is working as it's supposed to. Any business that's in any way connected to equities is absolutely on fire. Prime brokerage, margin lending, Equity Finance, IPOs, follow on offerings and secondaries, preferred stock issuance, market making intermediation.”
“Investment banking fees up 30% that's not going to be every quarter from here on out. You should not extrapolate that. Equities revenue up 86% year over year. Again there's not going to be a SpaceX every quarter from here on out.”
“The street is almost always right, except at major economic turning points. And they go right off the cliff. They keep, they keep raising estimates long after the companies start missing and disappointing.”
“my investment thesis is that Apple is going to own the consumer relationship with AI. Whatever LLM you want to use doesn't make a difference. You're going to Access it through iOS and Apple's going to get paid and knock yourself out.”
“Private credit's been super quiet. That's such a great point. Maybe it wasn't the last earnings quarter or maybe it was the one before, but that one of these earnings quarters, every Q and A started with one or two questions about private credit risk.”
“I start a NEO cloud. I say I am building a data center. I have money from Saudi Arabia and maybe the Norwegians and everybody private equity. Apollo's in. So I'm going to build this data center and I'm going to start my own NEO cloud. Jensen Wang calls and says, I heard the news, I think it's great. We would like to sell you GPUs and by the way, we will financially backstop those purchases. You don't have the capital yet. We know you're good for it because we see that you have all this backing and therefore Nvidia is going to book that chip sale to me and I'm either using money that indirectly comes from them or I'm backstopping that to raise money from someone else. Take that example. Times a thousand and everybody's lending and, or equity investing in everyone else's projects. And the concern is when the music stops, all these people go for the chairs and a lot of people are gonna be left without a chair because some of those funding commitments are gonna vanish as though they were a vapor.”
“This is the biggest stock in the world. This is Nvidia. And the growth rate obviously has been extraordinary. But the stock price is no longer reacting to earnings, upside surprises, to higher guidance, to analyst upgrades. It's getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, even as there's really no Deceleration, there's not, there are no negatives in any earnings. So what the market is basically saying is we're bored with Nvidia... This is not a bubble. This would be a bubble if in videos multiple had gone from 30 to 90 times earnings. This is a discount.”
“The new meme going around now is that it actually it's an earnings bubble. They can't say it's a stock bubble because the biggest, most visible growth stocks in the market have shrinking multiples. This year in a bubble, it goes the other way. Yes, we're paying more for earnings in a bubble. So what the bears have pivoted to is, oh, no, no, we're not saying the stock's in a bubble now. We're actually saying profitability is. And maybe they'll be right.”
“that's where the earnings bubble comes from. The companies are over earnings relative to what happens when this capex normalizes.”
“what happens when capex plans start to moderate and all this earnings growth. What's the. Is there a handoff where we don't have to automatically just have a bear market?... That is the handoff where the S&P493 start to outearn... because of all these investments they're making in AI start to result in higher earnings and more productivity. Like that is the way the market gets out of this hyper concentration amongst seven giant stocks.”
“I like this idea that where the puck is going is that healthcare and financials arguably have companies that could be among the biggest beneficiaries of AI as users, as adopters. Like what? Think about insurance underwriting... if AI lives up to the promise... You could have 500 companies in the financial sector and the healthcare sector say something on an earnings call. Like, we credit the beat to these investments we made a year ago in updating our workflows and processes to the AI era. And I think that's a really great way for the story to go.”
Josh Brown
One-line summary: Markets commentator and Ritholtz Wealth CEO; co-hosts the most-listened-to RIA-side markets podcast. Tracked for framing on AI-bubble durability debate.
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On ai-capex-to-power-and-materials-cascade:
"I think this is the singular debate in the market right now is how sustainable this build out is. How does this impact the hyperscalers? Nvidia, Taiwan, the memory companies?" — 2026-05-20-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-it-s-a-wave-not-a-bubble-nvidia-preview-google-s (2026-05-20)
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On spacex-ipo-index-inclusion-mechanic:
"Tom Lee was talking about this. He said the amount of same thing, the amount of wealth that's going to be created is going to be staggering. Guess what? The amount of wealth has to also come from somewhere because who is going to finance these purchases of SpaceX and OpenAI and Anthropic on the open market? Where does the $80 billion in cash come from and what is that going to do to other indices?" — 2026-05-22-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-memory-is-a-bubble-nvidia-s-blow-out-quarter (2026-05-22)
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On (no topic linked):
"Tesla and Amazon are almost two thirds of the [consumer discretionary] index... in 2018 they were 18%. Now they're 62%. So you're not saying anything about the consumer, you're saying something about whether or not people want to buy those stocks." — 2026-05-26-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-spacex-ipo-with-rupert-mitchell-consumer (2026-05-26)
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On spacex:
"Starlink is the whole company fundamentally... the cash flow is coming in from Starlink, which is hugely successful and is not even close to full penetration of its own TAM and really doesn't have any competition to speak of." — 2026-05-26-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-spacex-ipo-with-rupert-mitchell-consumer (2026-05-26)
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On spacex-ipo-passive-shortfall-to-equal-weight-rerate:
"I just don't believe that there's $2 trillion on the sidelines... I don't think it's in cash. It's got to come from somewhere. Where is it going to come from? If they sell my stocks to buy this thing, I'm going to be pissed." — 2026-05-26-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-spacex-ipo-with-rupert-mitchell-consumer (2026-05-26)
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On mega-issuance-peak-to-ai-capex-derate:
"[Tech] outperformed the S&P by 29% over that [50-day period]. Here it is. This was a six standard deviation event." — 2026-06-09-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-why-ai-momentum-stocks-got-killed-openai-s (2026-06-09)
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On seat-based-saas-ai-disruption, mega-issuance-supply-wave:
"Anthropic's first quarter operating profit in Q2 of this year was 559 million... They were at an $87 million run rate two years earlier... OpenAI lost $1.22 for every dollar that they earned in the quarter." — 2026-06-09-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-why-ai-momentum-stocks-got-killed-openai-s (2026-06-09)
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"The idea behind selling Stretch and the other preferreds was this is a cheaper source of funding than the dilution of selling stock... Now he's selling bitcoin to pay the dividend yield on the preferreds... It's like backward." — 2026-06-30-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-steroid-era-with-spencer-jakab-the-f-s-going-on (2026-06-30)
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On hidden-leverage-beyond-margin-debt:
"This is the thing that people don't understand from the outside. The risk is all yours... Robinhood is going to be fine. They are not going to be left holding the bag. They will liquidate securities." — 2026-06-30-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-steroid-era-with-spencer-jakab-the-f-s-going-on (2026-06-30)
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On seat-based-saas-ai-disruption:
"Eventually, Michael, the market figures out that not every software company is as disruptible as AI as other software companies. And some of these things are actually going to turn out to have been AI beneficiaries... If anyone is going to be in pole position to bring AI to the hospitality industry, my argument is it would be Toast." — 2026-06-30-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-steroid-era-with-spencer-jakab-the-f-s-going-on (2026-06-30)
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On mega-issuance-peak-to-ai-capex-derate:
"if you're a component supplier to this, I don't give a shit what your guidance is... you're not gonna be the first to know. They're at the back of the train. They don't know that the locomotive in the front of the train just hit something or went off a cliff." — 2026-07-10-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-the-real-ticking-time-bomb-with-michael-cembalest (2026-07-10)
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On apple-ai-aggregator-toll-to-services-rerate:
"the only thing that matters here to the Apple shareholder is that Apple is the tollbooth. They're going to get paid coming and going regardless of which AI the consumer wants to use. And that is the checkmate." — 2026-07-07-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-leveraged-etf-casino-apple-breaks-out-sentiment (2026-07-07)
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On seat-based-saas-ai-disruption:
"the halo trade, heavy assets, low obsolescence, would be the most important one of the year... pairing capital intensive stocks with a short position in capital light companies such as software and services has delivered a 20% year to date gain." — 2026-07-07-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-leveraged-etf-casino-apple-breaks-out-sentiment (2026-07-07)
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On ibm-preannounce-to-enterprise-saas-capex-reallocation, hbm-cowos-as-binding-bottleneck, agentic-ai-seat-erosion-to-saas-rerate:
"Quote, in the first few weeks of June we saw clients shift their quarterly capex towards servers storage and memory purchases to secure supply constrained infrastructure ahead of expected price increases." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On ibm-preannounce-to-enterprise-saas-capex-reallocation:
"The stock lost 25% of its market cap today. That is $67 billion in lost market cap over a revenue miss of 660 million. Does that sound disproportionate to you?" — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On ibm-preannounce-to-enterprise-saas-capex-reallocation, agentic-ai-seat-erosion-to-saas-rerate:
"And IBM by virtue of being the first of the tech companies to pre announce a weak quarter. I think just said the quiet part out loud which is enterprise SaaS spending is not a priority for the enterprise for corporations and it's probably not going to be for the rest of the summer." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On ibm-preannounce-to-enterprise-saas-capex-reallocation:
"The point I want to make is that the order of things inside of the IGV has changed significantly. The cybersecurity stocks are so much bigger now than they were six months ago relative to the enterprise SaaS stocks." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On ibm-preannounce-to-enterprise-saas-capex-reallocation, agentic-ai-seat-erosion-to-saas-rerate:
"Starbucks told Wall street that they are actively working on their own AI products. And Wall street interpreted that as Microsoft and IBM, which are big Starbucks vendors, are going to be in trouble." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On open-source-share-shift-bullish-for-compute, ai-roi-reckoning, steroid-era-earnings-inflation:
"A seismic shift in the pricing of AI due to more efficient models that rely on less token use and less memory." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On open-source-share-shift-bullish-for-compute, ai-roi-reckoning:
"If they decide that they're going to use these open weight models for 95% of the workflows and then only send the most critical 5% to the more expensive frontier models like LLM and Anthropic. If they decide, hey, you know what? We actually don't need the best model. We just need something that we can repeatedly do. Okay, a fifth of the cost, that. But that changes all of a sudden the earnings expectations" — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On ai-financing-supercycle-to-gs-capital-markets-rerate, ipo-comeback-public-market-value-capture:
"The theme across all of these reports, very simple. We're in a bull market. These are the companies that benefit the most from bull markets historically. And the system is working as it's supposed to. Any business that's in any way connected to equities is absolutely on fire. Prime brokerage, margin lending, Equity Finance, IPOs, follow on offerings and secondaries, preferred stock issuance, market making intermediation." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On ai-financing-supercycle-to-gs-capital-markets-rerate, ipo-comeback-public-market-value-capture:
"Investment banking fees up 30% that's not going to be every quarter from here on out. You should not extrapolate that. Equities revenue up 86% year over year. Again there's not going to be a SpaceX every quarter from here on out." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On steroid-era-earnings-inflation:
"The street is almost always right, except at major economic turning points. And they go right off the cliff. They keep, they keep raising estimates long after the companies start missing and disappointing." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On apple-ai-aggregator-toll-to-services-rerate:
"my investment thesis is that Apple is going to own the consumer relationship with AI. Whatever LLM you want to use doesn't make a difference. You're going to Access it through iOS and Apple's going to get paid and knock yourself out." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On bdc-redemption-spiral-to-private-credit-repricing, ai-financing-supercycle-to-gs-capital-markets-rerate:
"Private credit's been super quiet. That's such a great point. Maybe it wasn't the last earnings quarter or maybe it was the one before, but that one of these earnings quarters, every Q and A started with one or two questions about private credit risk." — 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings (2026-07-14)
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On nvidia-gpu-backstop-to-neocloud-financeability, steroid-era-earnings-inflation:
"I start a NEO cloud. I say I am building a data center. I have money from Saudi Arabia and maybe the Norwegians and everybody private equity. Apollo's in. So I'm going to build this data center and I'm going to start my own NEO cloud. Jensen Wang calls and says, I heard the news, I think it's great. We would like to sell you GPUs and by the way, we will financially backstop those purchases. You don't have the capital yet. We know you're good for it because we see that you have all this backing and therefore Nvidia is going to book that chip sale to me and I'm either using money that indirectly comes from them or I'm backstopping that to raise money from someone else. Take that example. Times a thousand and everybody's lending and, or equity investing in everyone else's projects. And the concern is when the music stops, all these people go for the chairs and a lot of people are gonna be left without a chair because some of those funding commitments are gonna vanish as though they were a vapor." — 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up (2026-07-17)
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On cuda-moat-erosion-to-nvda-rerate, steroid-era-earnings-inflation:
"This is the biggest stock in the world. This is Nvidia. And the growth rate obviously has been extraordinary. But the stock price is no longer reacting to earnings, upside surprises, to higher guidance, to analyst upgrades. It's getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, even as there's really no Deceleration, there's not, there are no negatives in any earnings. So what the market is basically saying is we're bored with Nvidia... This is not a bubble. This would be a bubble if in videos multiple had gone from 30 to 90 times earnings. This is a discount." — 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up (2026-07-17)
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On steroid-era-earnings-inflation, ai-roi-reckoning:
"The new meme going around now is that it actually it's an earnings bubble. They can't say it's a stock bubble because the biggest, most visible growth stocks in the market have shrinking multiples. This year in a bubble, it goes the other way. Yes, we're paying more for earnings in a bubble. So what the bears have pivoted to is, oh, no, no, we're not saying the stock's in a bubble now. We're actually saying profitability is. And maybe they'll be right." — 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up (2026-07-17)
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On steroid-era-earnings-inflation:
"that's where the earnings bubble comes from. The companies are over earnings relative to what happens when this capex normalizes." — 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up (2026-07-17)
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On ai-creators-to-adopters-rotation, steroid-era-earnings-inflation:
"what happens when capex plans start to moderate and all this earnings growth. What's the. Is there a handoff where we don't have to automatically just have a bear market?... That is the handoff where the S&P493 start to outearn... because of all these investments they're making in AI start to result in higher earnings and more productivity. Like that is the way the market gets out of this hyper concentration amongst seven giant stocks." — 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up (2026-07-17)
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On ai-creators-to-adopters-rotation:
"I like this idea that where the puck is going is that healthcare and financials arguably have companies that could be among the biggest beneficiaries of AI as users, as adopters. Like what? Think about insurance underwriting... if AI lives up to the promise... You could have 500 companies in the financial sector and the healthcare sector say something on an earnings call. Like, we credit the beat to these investments we made a year ago in updating our workflows and processes to the AI era. And I think that's a really great way for the story to go." — 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up (2026-07-17)
Sources
- 2026-05-20-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-it-s-a-wave-not-a-bubble-nvidia-preview-google-s
- 2026-05-22-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-memory-is-a-bubble-nvidia-s-blow-out-quarter
- 2026-05-26-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-spacex-ipo-with-rupert-mitchell-consumer
- 2026-06-09-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-why-ai-momentum-stocks-got-killed-openai-s
- 2026-06-30-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-steroid-era-with-spencer-jakab-the-f-s-going-on
- 2026-07-10-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-the-real-ticking-time-bomb-with-michael-cembalest
- 2026-07-07-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-leveraged-etf-casino-apple-breaks-out-sentiment
- 2026-07-14-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-ibm-warns-apple-sues-openai-big-bank-earnings
- 2026-07-17-podcast-the-compound-and-friends-you-re-about-to-see-the-real-ai-winners-stand-up
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